and u.s. forces and allied forces kicked the nazis out and john kerry said one of his earlier memories is going to that home and seeing only a stairway to the sky, seeing a chimney, everything else in devastation. so he has sort of two sides. one is the concern about the u.s. going too far in vietnam and the other is an understanding that the u.s. force can be used for good and he saw that as a very young child growing up. >> interesting also that the president did dug at him to go to pakistan, afghanistan, there were his wills both secret and public. it was he who was september to try to get hamid karzthat har i karzai back on the reservation. the question is how much leeway will he have at the state department. as hillary clinton learned, it's a closely held hold on policy. >> john kerry was sort of a shadow secretary of state as far as the democratic few. he was pair laying the democratic and obama white house message, but he was working with the state department, with the white house. he s